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Coach told him, “If you have to dig a ditch, you might as well whistle while you do it.’’

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As a freshman on Brown University’s rowing team, Cameron Janes was grinding through brutal six-day-a-week practices under the relentless eye of Coach Scott Roop—yet he still wasn’t in the top boat. He was frustrated. He was exhausted. And he was at an all-time low.

One day at a particularly tough practice, as the crew found themselves rowing even further away from their starting point with no relief in sight, Roop looked at the team and said something that stuck with Janes for the rest of his life: “If you have to dig a ditch, you might as well whistle while you’re doing it.”

Janes, now the Chief Operating Officer at REI, overseeing $3.7 billion in annual sales across more than 190 stores, shared this pivotal moment on a recent episode of the Corporate Competitor Podcast. At the time, he didn’t want to hear it. In fact, he admitted, “I almost jumped out of the boat and tried to kill him at that moment.” But later, the lesson sank in.

What Coach Roop was teaching wasn’t just about rowing—it was about leadership, resilience, and finding joy in the process. The team put in the work, and the results followed. The next year every boat in every race went undefeated, earning the entire team a place in the Brown University Sports Hall of Fame.

For Janes, that lesson didn’t stay on the water—it shaped his leadership philosophy in business. “I cannot tell you how much when I’m in moments where I have to work really hard, and work is challenging, or life is challenging, I think back to that moment,” he shared on the podcast. “I think, okay, you might as well find some joy in what you’re doing.”

At REI, Janes has carried forward the principles he learned in that boat, which he shares on the podcast, including:

  • Fostering healthy competition within a team environment. The best leaders find ways to balance collaboration and individual growth, pushing people to be their best while maintaining a unified vision.
  • Creating inspiration to drive motivation. Employees don’t just want to work hard—they want to believe in what they’re working for. Leaders must give them that purpose.
  • Balancing integration and assimilation. When joining a new organization, it’s critical to bring fresh ideas while respecting and embracing the existing culture.

You will learn:

  •  6:00   How easy it is to cut corners in practice and why you’ll suffer as a result.
  •  8:00   How to emphasize the power or “we” on your team.
  • 11:00  How living and working in Japan in the aftermath of the Fukushima disaster taught Lane that caring was the universal language of respected leaders.
  • 15:00  The level of employee interaction required to achieve success.
  • 18:30  The difference between being accountable and responsible.
  • 27:00  How to identify a meaningful friend or mentor.

Resources:

  • Find an REI near you!
  • Connect with Cameron Janes on LinkedIn

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